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There are other questions beyond simply asking, 'are you going to accept the government raising taxes to support lower wage earners receiving a pay rise?'

The simple answer will always be yes. Then - once details and the realities emerge - it becomes a different story.

Take your example of childcare. It is - as you note - highly subsidised by taxpayers. The question here is whether taxpayers can reasonably be expected to fund childcare in ever increasing amounts? It is a personal decision to have children, yet taxpayers are paying for people's choices so those same individuals can return to work.

A simple way of explaining childcare subsidies is I pay so you can return to work and earn money you get to keep because I'm paying a significant cost of your childcare. We have - for some time - been funding other people's lifestyle choices so they can have it all.

Arguments favouring childcare subsidies - such as the benefits of (mainly women) returning to the workforce bringing commensurate expertise with them - aside, childcare is still one couples lifestyle choice being subsidised by another - in this instance - the taxpayer.

Another question is what will be the impact of higher wages - which will be felt through increased prices as well as taxes - on purchases in Australia? A significant number of people are already purchasing from cheaper online stores as opposed to going to the local shopping centre.

The online stores offer wares made in cheap labour overseas countries without the huge overheads faced by retailers based in local shopping centres. As Australian labour costs increase with prices logically following to compensate, will Australians pay the higher prices in support of increased local wages?

I'm guessing the answer will be no.

On what do I base this view? Trends in online shopping we've already seen coupled with the extensive offshoring of industries - including those which initially resisted such moves - because companies manufacturing locally could no longer compete with those who moved offshore.

Why? Australian consumers - in ever increasing numbers - chose cheaper overseas made product over more expensive locally produced products. Somehow, the Australia consumer always escapes blame for their part in setting this trend.

Fact - Australians won't - and certainly don't want to - pay to support the wages and conditions they enjoy. The inevitable outcome will be an increase in offshoring with commensurate loss of local jobs.

As to polling - Its accuracy is in doubt for two reasons.

1. Pollsters poll people who give the 'required' or 'expected' answers. Others are weeded out. I know because I volunteered for polling and was quietly dropped - they stopped sending me polls - because I didn't give the sought after answers. This was despite me carefully considering all questions and providing the most accurate and honest answers - from my perspective of course - possible.

2. People are afraid to overtly state their opinions on many subjects and issues. Politics is a prime example. Only after people have enjoyed the privacy of a ballot box do you tend to learn what they really think. The ballot box is safe because it reveals a collective of anonymous votes.

Polling has been less accurate in recent times largely because of the factors mentioned above. For those taking the polls, the problem is further compounded by issues potentially arising from results which contradict - or oppose - something widely believed to be viewed differently.

Voting for Don or Brexit are prime examples. Imagine the difficulty for any pollster releasing results showing Trump or Brexit would prevail? For the answer, one need not look beyond Cambridge Analytica.

By any measure, Cambridge Analytica did its job extremely well. It worked for the Trump and Brexit campaigns, both of which succeeded.

Cambridge Analytica was hounded out of business for its success because it worked - in the eye of many - for the wrong sides. Had Cambridge Analytica successfully worked for Clinton and Remain, it would have been lauded for its achievement and held up an as example of modern business utilising technology to best effect.

The last bit is still true, but forgotten - and twisted - because the outcome was disapproved by many.

With that reality in mind, who is going to present contrary evidence if their business may be under threat simply by doing so?

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I read recently that the majority of US younger voters (18-31) believed in "European Socialism" - despite that word made akin to "serial killers" in US media. Presumably they were polled with some factual basis.

I expect the next generation has worked out the fallacy of the multiple Ponzi schemes that make up our current culture.

If they then also support compulsory + "rank" voting - change will come!

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