Thanks for the thoughtful feedback, Scott. Yes, it's not possible to be particularly nuanced in a 1,300-word article but I'm sure there are plenty of employers, including tech industry employers, especially smaller players, who do seek to do the right thing by their local and remote workers. And, yes, there's no way a sufficient number of Australians can be trained up quickly enough to address the tech talent shortage in Australia or other first-world nations, so some amount of skilled migration is necessary. But I think the broader point still stands - employers have long had ready access to workers and as a result have grown complacent and, firstly, underinvested in training and, secondly, often treated their employees poorly (see Amazon workers needing to urinate in bottles).
100% with you on AWS and FANG (uber/apple etc) - and great to see a revival of unions in Eastern states ......but thats a small sample of "employers"
You'd only consider Atlassian as comparable to AWS in Australia with most start-ups "hoping to be" Id expect. I understand employees at Atlassian do get real toilet breaks :P
As the son of a communist and myself an "entrepreneurial marxist" i think the issues are more nuanced "at the margin". ;)
Im not sure both sides claim exactly this - i hear more often "a 'net' economic benefit" claimed.
Im not close to this data - however - i would think the local supply side pressures will also be impacted the realisation - reinforced during covid - that remote can and does work..."fully distributed": business' are the norm now in my space
Our businesses hire tech 100% overseas now (Vietnam & I assume NZ counts:P) and we pay very well.
We don't pay a low rate - however the skill offered per dollar paid - I would argue is relatively higher from offshore staff.
The investment/capital required to "skill up"/onboard is the key issue for the local tech / strart-up economy in my experience. When local "kids" demand a 100% raise after 6 months - "or move" (often hounded by local HR offering same) where is the incentive to invest in that local ramp up of local skills?
5k or even 10k from local government incentives doesn't cut it unfortunately.
Thanks for the thoughtful feedback, Scott. Yes, it's not possible to be particularly nuanced in a 1,300-word article but I'm sure there are plenty of employers, including tech industry employers, especially smaller players, who do seek to do the right thing by their local and remote workers. And, yes, there's no way a sufficient number of Australians can be trained up quickly enough to address the tech talent shortage in Australia or other first-world nations, so some amount of skilled migration is necessary. But I think the broader point still stands - employers have long had ready access to workers and as a result have grown complacent and, firstly, underinvested in training and, secondly, often treated their employees poorly (see Amazon workers needing to urinate in bottles).
100% with you on AWS and FANG (uber/apple etc) - and great to see a revival of unions in Eastern states ......but thats a small sample of "employers"
You'd only consider Atlassian as comparable to AWS in Australia with most start-ups "hoping to be" Id expect. I understand employees at Atlassian do get real toilet breaks :P
As the son of a communist and myself an "entrepreneurial marxist" i think the issues are more nuanced "at the margin". ;)
"that high migration intakes are all upside."
Im not sure both sides claim exactly this - i hear more often "a 'net' economic benefit" claimed.
Im not close to this data - however - i would think the local supply side pressures will also be impacted the realisation - reinforced during covid - that remote can and does work..."fully distributed": business' are the norm now in my space
Our businesses hire tech 100% overseas now (Vietnam & I assume NZ counts:P) and we pay very well.
We don't pay a low rate - however the skill offered per dollar paid - I would argue is relatively higher from offshore staff.
The investment/capital required to "skill up"/onboard is the key issue for the local tech / strart-up economy in my experience. When local "kids" demand a 100% raise after 6 months - "or move" (often hounded by local HR offering same) where is the incentive to invest in that local ramp up of local skills?
5k or even 10k from local government incentives doesn't cut it unfortunately.